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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:32 pm  Reply with quote
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Why yes...I did. Cool

I tried setting it up in ms frontpage...thought it would be easier. It just made sloppy code imo. I used to be "very" good with html...some of my skills have slipped a little though. I really should get around to adding "meta tags" and such...eh, someday.

I'm fairly good with javascript also...although none is incorportated in the site.

Hmmmm........ Idea

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:18 pm  Reply with quote
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one thing i see that could be fixed. it says best viewed w/ IE at the bottom.
could change it to best viewed w/ anything higher than ie or ns versions 4

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:23 pm  Reply with quote
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Good idea Gill...

Actually, when I code, I usually check it out in several browsers just to see if results are the same. I don't have Netscape on my desktop...but I do on my laptop.

<---runs to laptop to check things out.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:07 pm  Reply with quote
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Grrrr..... Evil or Very Mad

Even though I'm "old" and a smoker. I can still run two miles and mountain bike with my daughter and her friends for three hours.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:41 pm  Reply with quote
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Chips wrote:
Why yes...I did. Cool

I tried setting it up in ms frontpage...thought it would be easier. It just made sloppy code imo. I used to be "very" good with html...some of my skills have slipped a little though. I really should get around to adding "meta tags" and such...eh, someday.

I'm fairly good with javascript also...although none is incorportated in the site.

Hmmmm........ Idea

dreamweaver makes tidier code, it even has a code cleaner feature, but I prefer notepad - better for writing server side scripts

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:20 pm  Reply with quote
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i usually start off w/ ms frontpage2k to get the layout idea worked out. i clean up w/ aceHTML5 pro, where it has all the html code bits to help me.
notepad or webpad for quick little html edits.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:52 am  Reply with quote
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i draw my layout and plan it in fireworks mx 2004, and develop my graphics in that.

then i code it in notepad Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:06 pm  Reply with quote
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I just use notepad to write it and to preview it I save really quick and open with firefox. To each his own, as the old saying goes Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:51 am  Reply with quote
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you guys don't have any css? dam, suprised it's so neatly laid out...

you could prob save a lot of unnecessary code if you put it into your css file.

For example, i see that each sub heading you have had to put into virdana every time.

you could save a lot of time by making a style.css file and putting this into it:


Code:

h2
{
font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
}


This makes the h2 into virdana, but if someone doesn't have virdana as a font it goes to arial, and if they don't have arial it goes to sans-serif.

Of course, you don't have to include simple things, you can also make them all the same colour, size etc included in this, for example, in the website i am making i have this as my subheader:

Code:

h2
{
text-align: left;
text-decoration: none;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;
font-weight: bold;
font-size: 16px;
line-height: 16pt;
letter-spacing: 0px;
font-stretch: none;
color: #7B7B3E;
border: none;
margin-bottom: 0%;
padding-bottom: 0pt;
margin-top: 0%;
padding-top: 0pt;
}


Of course, you don't just have to do headers in css, the general style and format of the page can be done, link settings, lots of things Razz.

It is also not hard to learn if you know html, things are almost the same.

To get the style.css file to work you need to include a link to this in html at the start of your page, like this:

Code:

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style.css">


If you do not call your css file style.css then you alter this to whatever you called file. Also, i advise saving this file in the same location as your html file.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:20 pm  Reply with quote
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Definitely...if the site involved more pages (which it may someday soon)...I would use style sheets to make the overall layout easier, more uniform and reduce code.

This site started out as just a "real" simple page with some info. Then I added this...and then that...and presto. Laughing

Since the whole page uses "verdana"...you pretty much have to only reference it once. You see so many references to it cause I first laid it out in ms frontpage. Like I said before, frontpage makes sloppy code.

I could take it out...but, if it ain't broke...don't fix it. Razz

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CSS is a feature from the gods Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:12 am  Reply with quote
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Creamy White Sponge wrote:
CSS is a feature from the gods Smile


and He smiled down upon us from the heavens, and said "Let there be a cleaner, more efficient web language with twice as many features!"

and CSS was born. And the world rejoiced Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:13 am  Reply with quote
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The Howling Man wrote:
Creamy White Sponge wrote:
CSS is a feature from the gods Smile


and He smiled down upon us from the heavens, and said "Let there be a cleaner, more efficient web language with twice as many features!"

and CSS was born. And the world rejoiced Wink


and he blessed us once again with the pruity of PHP on our servers and said "Let there be an easy to write server side scripting language to make many sites amazing!"

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:55 am  Reply with quote
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Like yours Adam...it's one of the better php based sites I've seen.

Good job... Cool


P.S. Now that I've taken a look...the game monitors don't seem to work with NS 4.8. All other browsers, IE, NS7 and Firefox, show it correctly.

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Now that I'm off college for easter, I can make a new site if you like, even with a built in Java IRC applet Very Happy

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