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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:57 pm  Reply with quote
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i know i was "caught hacking" by you guys, and that there was a majority consensus that i was so i was fairly banned. what you cannot do is say i was defintley hacking. you had overwhelming evidence as jum puts it to say i was hacking, which is fine. but overwhelming is not complete, and until you get complete evidence. you cannot say i hacked for sure as so many of you have. by all means keep me banned, i dont expect otherwise, for you all do feel i hacked. but nevertheless that doesnt mean i neccisarily did.


You got caught, SHUT UP.

Im sorry, I didnt type that. Well, it may seem like I did, and all logic points to the fact that I did, but no one saw me, so theres a chance it wasn't me.

But seriously, you are just starting to sound like an idiot. I'd like to know how we can be 100% sure you were hacking, save from standing behind you as you play. Recorded demos are the best way to check, and the demo shows undeniable proof of you hacking. Untill you come up with evidence denying what the video clearly shows, you're SOL.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:18 pm  Reply with quote
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chips just lock this thread already...this is pointless arguing and nothing good can come from it, its over.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:02 pm  Reply with quote
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i know its hard to understand that i agree with what you guys are saying. yet there are other sides of the argument that you might be oblivious to seeing. im glad this has stayed orderly with noone yelling at me. not. but who cares

you guys are missing what im saying and if by now you dont understand my point, you frankly sir are stupid.

i have said before that i was caught hacking by you guys and was banned for it fairly. I AM NOT ARGUING AGAINST THAT .

just because i was caught does not mean i was guilty.

if the few of you who are getting hostile towards me cant understand that the 'guilty' have been found innocent in the past, then please stop trying to make any point whatsoever because you are being foolish.

i have repeated myself on numerous occasions, pretty much every damn post i made. you banned me. fine. that does not mean i hacked. it means you all believe i hacked which is good enough for everyone. BUT that does not mean it MUST be true.

i really cant explain it any clearer. i am not trying to win anything , not like im applying for an unbanning. im just stating very clearly that i am not conceding to anything JUST based on some conclusions that you came to.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:14 pm  Reply with quote
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Debating this is pointless. We brought evidence and together decided that it was incriminating. I don't understand what you are trying to argue. You are saying you didn't hack, the demo says otherwise. Video evidence is pretty solid. Two things I do not understand:

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i have said before that i was caught hacking by you guys and was banned for it fairly. I AM NOT ARGUING AGAINST THAT


Then why keep the charade up?

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just because i was caught does not mean i was guilty.


And this is pretty much the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

You posting here like this isn't helping you win any friends on the inside and, no offesnse, makes you seem about 12 years old.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:33 pm  Reply with quote
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rebs an extra idea was proposed to you: provide your config files.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:47 pm  Reply with quote
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-SoldierBoy- wrote:

rebel_leader wrote:
just because i was caught does not mean i was guilty.


And this is pretty much the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

You posting here like this isn't helping you win any friends on the inside and, no offesnse, makes you seem about 12 years old.


exactly my point.

you do not understand.

not everyone caught is guilty. please stop arguing before you understand what im saying

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:35 pm  Reply with quote
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rebel_leader wrote:
-SoldierBoy- wrote:

rebel_leader wrote:
just because i was caught does not mean i was guilty.


And this is pretty much the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

You posting here like this isn't helping you win any friends on the inside and, no offesnse, makes you seem about 12 years old.


exactly my point.

you do not understand.

not everyone caught is guilty. please stop arguing before you understand what im saying



i think you mean 'just because i was blamed doesn't make me guilty.


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The Crimson King wrote:

i think you mean 'just because i was blamed doesn't make me guilty.



quite so.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:12 pm  Reply with quote
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I think everybody understands your point. Unfortunately, it's completely inane and has absolutely no relevance to the question at hand.

I honestly do not believe that anybody has been hostile towards you. We have just punched giant holes in your "logic." With every post you make, you sink further and further.

I agree with Falcon - this thread should be closed. It is like arguing with a 5th grader.

PS: You can consider that last line to be hostile.
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I've never seen something as ridiculous as this thread. Oh my god, hahaha.

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Louie wrote:
I've never seen something as ridiculous as this thread. Oh my god, hahaha.


well, you could look at mally's thread in members or spam central. both are pretty equal in ridicule.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:14 am  Reply with quote
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This is ridiculous in a dramatic sense.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:52 am  Reply with quote
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Submission of config files would prove quite pointless as I doubt anyone would ever submit their correct config...dontcha think. Question What he's accused of would not have been using a config anyway...more likely a .dll file.

Anyway....yes, it's becoming pointless at this time. He says he didn't...we all believe he did. Notice I said "believe". Have innocent people been wrongfully accused and convicted before? Sure, no one or no "system" is perfect. Do I believe the evidence is weighted enough to let me sleep at night believing we made the right decision? Yes. Neutral

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:02 am  Reply with quote
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I think it only fair that all here should know that STA has decided that there was insufficient evidence to warrant a ban in the STA league. Now, since I'm a STA dispute admin...I'm privy to additional information.

The information (2 demos) presented was insufficient...not that they didn't question what they saw. It took them months to come to this conclusion...apparently not coming to a unanimous decision. This tells me that some were for a ban...and others not.

I spoke with rebs in IRC last night...he's aware that I do not agree with STA's decision. Again, to be fair to rebs...this should be know to all. Neutral

I DO hope that anyone caring to discuss this further, does so in a mature, rational way. No flames please.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:04 pm  Reply with quote
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I think everything that needed saying has been said, either here or in IRC.
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