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What is your politcal party?
Democrat
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Republican
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Green
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Other
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:26 pm  Reply with quote
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Registered Democrat but my views vary depending on the situation.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:45 pm  Reply with quote
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I agree with louie about President G W Bush. I have sat through and watched some of his press briefings and casual speaches. His fancy speaches are well written by a good staff, and all the spin doctor media can do is make fun of his regional twang and "stated ideas" as oppoosed to wording. His unscripted talks are what get "clips" played over and over again by dipsh.... ya, and people take advantage of his casual outgoingness. I honestly think he remains casually outgoing even against the will of his politcal advisors cause it is what he wants to do (and after Pres he has no polical carreer so why care). When I have heard odd phrases and the such while listening to the entire question, or the entire speach it actaully rolls together ... some of his snicker-ish jokes actaully got me to smile or sniker. But people looking to discredit our elected leader will make fun of his jokes by placing them out of context with mallcious comentary, or cutting straight to single words that sound off.

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AvP wrote:
Registered Democrat but my views vary depending on the situation.


I think I am registered demo, but I GREATLY jump arround on all views. I support the push of american ideals and intrest and goodwill improvements throughout the world, even with heavy force. I wish all americans could get an extradinary good education, mandatory as a birthright. There are way too many restrictions on guns which are considered for use as defensive or hunting purposes. The underprivlidged should have better access to health care, and old people shouldn't drain their life savings on drug company profit margins. There should be less restriction on imports and exports of goods. As opposed to building a big fence and mounting lots of guns, we should annex mexico, build lots of scholls and jobs and infrastructure (meaning remove the desire to run north), and let the mexican work ethic keep america on top of the world before the chinese draggon beats us out economically in 20 years.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:23 am  Reply with quote
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Wow, I see freakn likes to rant...
The restrictions are not that great for imports because companies send raw materials to Asia and ship manufactured products back in.
I do believe that our nation needs to emphasize getting a good education. It would be a very difficult task to make people go to college because some just don't have the capabilities to even pass the general education requirements. When a family doesn't care about education, their children will not make their education top priority. I am lucky, my parents value education and help me by letting live at home while I am working on getting a degree. My cousin was raised in a tottally different environment, her parents are very old fashioned; the women, who has no job, gets married young to a man who will take care of her. Her education was never of importance so she didn't strive to be a good student. When she went to community college, she took two classes and failed both. She isn't going to college anymore, but hey, she has a boyfriend who is a "working man".
You could improve education by giving better teacher training and education. But here in Sacramento, the public school district is in big debt so it was one of the first things to go. Neutral

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Anyway, I think that Amerca is in some pretty hot water nowadays.
We got a lot of problems on our hands.
we got terrorism, bad education, gangs, violence, poverty, mass drug usage, pollution, the middle class is thinning out, racism, debt, ect, ect, ect.

What I think we should do, is get multiple political heads, and tackle multiple problems similtaniously. The more we turn a blind eye to one thing, the worse it gets, so when we turn to fix it, another thing gets worse. I say one large push will do it.

But I do think education is a SERIOUS thing. kids in urban ghettos are shown to have low test scores, sometimes with the number of kids with the min. education requirements only meet .5% out of the whole school. This is sad. KIDS DON'T HAVE AN EDUCATION WHEN IT IS NEEDED THE MOST. College enrollment is down, High School drop out rate had reached 30% and will grow. Have you seen the high school exit exams these days? They're easy! And yet 45% don't make it (or something like that)
As a kid with an IQ of 172, I see how bad it is.

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And did you know that Bush was a straight C student for his life?
Carter was a B kid,
Nixon was a B+
and Clinton was a straight A student, except during his junior and senior years.


And I found this courtesy of Stumble-Upon
http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/16957/Are_Bush_Supporters_Dumb_See_IQ_Tests_And_Decide_For_Yourself
Note: the veiws shown upon this URL does not reflect the views of Col. StaR. It's just along with the topic.

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I took the CA exit exam. It was the first year they were trying it out, they didn't have it a requirement until the class two years after. I passed both the English portion and the Math portion on the first try, in 9th grade. I didn't even study for them... I saw news reports of how some people were outraged that they were being tested on stuff they were tought in middle school. They took it multiple times from 9th grade to 12th and they still couldn't pass it. They get a Bad Idea from me!

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At least for you guys in the USA when you want to get an education you can.

In Australia we've got a problem of too many people wanting to do higher education. 10000+ students each year are turned away from enrollment in tertiary education because there is just FAR too much competition from overseas students and high schools churning out smart kids.

Right now (in my state especially) we've got a cultural broadside opinion that if you want to get anywhere in the world you need to get a Bachelor or a degree of some discription to make it anywhere in the world. What is happening, however, is that alot of people are getting into universities and finding that its not their thing or that they can't cope with the work load and are droping out. I doubt that this is a localised issue too.

This is totally the wrong thing and I think its a severe misunderstanding on the part of modern western culture.

Not everyone is suited to getting a degree or being an academic. There still needs to be people doing trades and construction and menial tasks. There shouldn't be this weight on people to fit their square intellectual capacity into a circular hole. Furthermore application of skills is an issue too. Whats the point of getting a degree if you don't know how to use it or apply the knowledge? This is another issue underpinning education. Some degrees don't even have a job waiting for them on the other side. *cough* Bachelor of Arts *cough*

There needs to be a push to put people where they are needed. Not just into education because thats what you think is best. Who cares if people drop out of high-school. One of my close friends dropped out in year 10 because it wasn't his thing and started an apprenticeship to become a plumber. Hes now completed that and now runs his own business at 20 years of age. If he had stayed at school he would have been 2 years from where he is now.

And for the record. IQ means nothing, its just a number. Application is everything.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:07 am  Reply with quote
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Chips wrote:
Registered republican....George Bush is an embarassment not only to Republicans, but to the American people. The guy can't even speak our language for goodness sakes. Confused

Unfortunately, I don't feel there's anyone in the current political arena worthy of the tast...we are constantly forced to choose the lesser of two evils. Neutral



completely agreed. i'll be voting republican in the next election, even though i'm extremely liberal, I'm so pro military it's not even funny. And i'd probably move to Canada and chill with cuni if Clinton *shudders* makes it into office.

and for the love of god bush, it's pronounced 'nu-clear'.

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Crimson: You say you are liberal but you will run to Canada if Clinton is elected... I doubt if she will do a terrible job because she already knows how politics works by being a senator and the first lady.

Fozy: Do you have a community college system there? We do and it is a great way to weed out those who are not capabile of going to college. In California it is only about $1,000 for tuition and books per semester for a full time student taking 16 units.

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Foxtrot wrote:
Not everyone is suited to getting a degree or being an academic. There still needs to be people doing trades and construction and menial tasks. There shouldn't be this weight on people to fit their square intellectual capacity into a circular hole. Furthermore application of skills is an issue too. Whats the point of getting a degree if you don't know how to use it or apply the knowledge? This is another issue underpinning education. Some degrees don't even have a job waiting for them on the other side. *cough* Bachelor of Arts *cough*

There needs to be a push to put people where they are needed. Not just into education because thats what you think is best. Who cares if people drop out of high-school. One of my close friends dropped out in year 10 because it wasn't his thing and started an apprenticeship to become a plumber. Hes now completed that and now runs his own business at 20 years of age. If he had stayed at school he would have been 2 years from where he is now.

And for the record. IQ means nothing, its just a number. Application is everything.

Absolutely great post, Foxy, and I agree whole heartedly with this. The whole US society is obsessed with getting into college, and it meaning everything. Colleges in the US these days are more diploma mills than higher education centers. The colleges don't care how smart or stupid you are. If you are rich, you'll make it in.

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I'm an unregistered independant. I don't support either side completely; I go back and forth pending the issue at hand.

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I'm undecided at the moment. But I feel as though I oughta be deciding soon. 2008's only two years from now. By then i'll be 19 and elligable to vote.

From what I've found out from varrious "Quizzes" is that I seem to always be far left. Though I put no faith whatsoever in those quizzes.

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now that the '08 elections are much much closer, perhaps this thread could use a lil' bumpin'.

My personal predictions (that are the same as pretty much everyone at this point) is that the general will be McCain (obviously, Huckabee couldn't possibly win enough to beat him, (and a thousand LOLs all over Ron Paul) the only thing that could keep McCain from the nomination is if he literally died) vs. Obama.

Obama's got hella momentum over Clinton recently, and all trends are showing he'll keep it up. It will probably end up being a brokered convention on the Dem side, but assuming the superdelegates aren't total dickheads they'll mostly go with whoever has the most pledged delegates (which would almost certainly be Obama).

Nominated like that, I think Obama will easily beat McCain in a general. On the offchance Clinton wins, it would probably be a much closer race, and she'd almost certainly lose if she got the nomination with less pledged delegates, and only because of superdelegates.

While I consider myself pretty moderate fiscally (not gung-ho about quasi-socialist hyper-taxation or right-wing "screw you, I got mine, pull yourself up by your bootstraps" policies, I find social conservatism to be absolutely, unforgivably reprehensible, so I find it really difficult to support any Republican.

Though McCain does seem to be more moderate in that regard, (i.e. not supporting federal bans on gay marriage, though personally opposing it) I'd still be really hesitant to vote for him, even against Clinton, because a whole bunch of what a president does isn't even their policies, so much as their cabinet, and I feel Clinton would develop a much better cabinet than McCain, no matter how shrill, shrewy, and old-school slimebag-politics-based she may be. Not to mention how likely it is that some Supreme Court Justice could die, (Stevens is 87) and I'm certain Clinton would fill that seat "better" than McCain, and the Supreme Court is where numerous very important decisions are made.

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