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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:38 pm  Reply with quote
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This is starting to get waaaaaaaaaaay out of hand. Civi maps are intended to be played with a certain class...the civilian. Lameness and stupidity are allowed here as you all know. But I will draw the line at players exploiting CLASS restrictions on these types of maps. This goes past lame or stupid and borders on outright cheating.

Any player noticed doing this will be immediately told to play the map as intended...or be kicked. A repeat offense may lead to a ban. Exploiting class restrictions takes the "fun" out of the map for the other players...you may think it's fun, but please think of the others on the server.

Our rule of "lameness and stupidity of all kinds permitted, just deal with it", reflects a freedom that is allowed to all players here. We won't restrict "how" you play in general...spawn camping, infect & run etc. But doing this ruins the "spirit" of the rule...don't take your lameness or stupidity too far, or you risk the ire of the admins and the community.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:52 pm  Reply with quote
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As an added note, you may want to say no sniper rifles on icehockey and bastketball.

Heck, slash that. Remove those maps from the server altogether. Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:57 pm  Reply with quote
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Wooo! Finally!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:07 pm  Reply with quote
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This happened yesterday and the admins said they would talk to you about it. It all started with Soli exploiting and CC and Nuck told him not to tell anyone else how to, and then he told them all through a pm through steam friends. The map was civsaw. I'm glad you've touched on this, alot of us told Soli to knock it off and play, but he wouldn't listen. Thanks for touching base on this.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:46 pm  Reply with quote
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Mind you, sometimes bots go medic when they all fill in. They might have fixed that on the new civ maps, but not the old ones. Do the bots get banned? Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:49 pm  Reply with quote
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the map is sheit, take it out of the server, along with morefirefortress Sad

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:52 pm  Reply with quote
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Bots are set to not be on such maps...those (civi) and skill maps. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:39 pm  Reply with quote
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Americanboy3 wrote:
This happened yesterday and the admins said they would talk to you about it.


The admins are always talking about one thing or another... Laughing

*makes post an announcement so it doesnt dissapear into the void later on*

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:25 am  Reply with quote
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Psycho_Chick wrote:
*makes post an announcement so it doesnt dissapear into the void later on*

Now why didn't I think of that ... Confused

<3 teh fuzzy cuteness ... Good Idea Very Happy Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:02 pm  Reply with quote
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Sometimes on some civi maps its nice to be an engi so you dont lose all your progression. much like maps like Area_49_2 I hate going all that distance and then dying just to end up back at respawn. Maps like Hide n seek, civsaw yeah I can understand that. but on maps you have like a maze its nice to have the engi's tele sitting there Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:06 pm  Reply with quote
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^^Good point
It should also be recognized that maps such as Area_49_2 and The_Climb are not part of the normal rotation nor are they listed as votable maps on the main server. Being that they are special maps, special circumstances regarding usage of the civilian exploit may be justifiable. The Engy/teleporter situation brings a sorta balance against the moral crumbling challenges of such maps and lends more towards feel good feelings, fun, and commradary amongst the players who are trying to complete the map as a team. Whaddaya think? Question

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:49 pm  Reply with quote
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Rather than exploit the classes intended...how bout:

admin_rcon df_hook_on 1

This can let someone get back to where they were...while not bothering others. IF we allow civi exploits under "certain conditions"...it could open the doors to that grey area we all hate. Confused

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:44 pm  Reply with quote
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Area_49_2, isnt really a climbing jump map but a thinking, skill, and puzzles. Meaning if you make one wrong move your dead. I dont think it really disrupts play at all, but I think it kinda gives people hope Razz By the way, area_49_2 and Area_49_2_pt2 arent on the main ;D cough cough wink wink nudge blah.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:32 pm  Reply with quote
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Chips wrote:
IF we allow civi exploits under "certain conditions"...it could open the doors to that grey area we all hate. Confused


which was kidanis whole existance, think about that lol
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:35 pm  Reply with quote
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Exactamundo...that's my concern. Confused

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