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I have been wanting to edit some of my weapon models and such.

i know thier are some people that do stuff wit models around here so i thought this would be a good place to ask.

Can anyone help tech me or tell me general basics on makeing or editing models. i have Milkshape 3D 1.7.6 . but i am very lost on how to use it.
And whenever i try to open a model with it, it closes and shuts down the program. HELP!? Very Happy

Last.FM · Forum Sniper Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 696

Opening a .mdl file won't work. mdl's are compiled models, sort of like BSP map files. There's more data to them than just a model. Animations are built into it, physics data is built into it, textures are coded into it but not built into it. The only way you can really open a .mdl file is to decompile it and open the base .mdl file that is contained inside of the main .mdl file that you see in your models directory.

Other than that, try using 3ds max, milkshape is good too, but you're better off getting some skills in 3ds max so you can have custom models in Fortress Forever when that is out.

Forum Soldier Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 371 Location: lol

You DO NOT WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN STUFF ... trust me

modeling, skinning, and animating something as seemingly simple as a weapons model takes weeks of near constant work to attain something that is both smoothly functioning and visually pleasing.

But please, dont let me detour you if you REALLy want to learn 3D modeling. Know the first things you create will very likely not be of the quality you'd want on your screen. Especially since, from your post, it seems like you have little no no real experience using modeling programs.

my suggestion is that you go to www.custom-tfc.co.uk if you want some new models.

You really are better off just reskinning models. Much easier. I tried to make my own crowbar once, and... yeah. Hard. Reskinning is cake.

Last.FM · Forum Sniper Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 696

Forum Soldier Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 371 Location: lol

Hehe my post was generally aimed at chi Razz

I'm also planning to apply to the art institute among other place sometime in the near future as a graphic design major or something like that ... Razz

actually thats what i ment editing textures on the model. i know how hard it is to make a model from tech class that i failed...lol.

How do i edit the textures?

my guess would be export a bmp and edit it then import but it wouldnt let me import. I did that with jeds model viewer.^

And i think someone called it a(n) orange script has to be put in it to make it change color per team you are on that right?

ok, open the model using HLModel veiwer(that's what I used to do mine, if you haven't seen my simple re-skins check www.custom-tfc.co.uk my inverted models should still be on the main page), then click on the texture tab, and click export, but make sure you got all the textures you need. Then after you mess with them, you can re-name them too, you just import the corresponding texture back into the model, save it, and there you have it. If this confused you and you would like pictures to go along with it, then ask and I'll see what I can do, and if you'd like to see a certain model edited in the little tutorial, just ask and I'll do it.

i learn better with pics. Very Happy

how do you mess it Question

sshotgun plz Very Happy

got it, I'll make it look weird/cool, so it could take me anywhere from 30(cause of the pics and uploading them) to 90 minutes(depending on how detailed I want to get with it).

From what you said earlier Chi, you had the right proccess but the wrong program. The program Demasu mentioned works perfect

know where i can get it? And i have jed's HLMV not HLMV why wouldnt it let me re import after editing

http://www.swissquake.ch/chumbalum-soft/hlmv/index.html

Forum H4xor Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 2504 Location: NJ

thats a shitty hlmv.
http://www.wunderboy.org/apps/jhlmv.php
100X better

He has that one and it doesnt work for him