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| As we all know, the bots on the server are stupid. Not only that, but they are annoying because they have unbelievable aim, they un-cover/kill enemy spies no matter what, lag like crazy, thus skip all over the map and kill you in the process and even at times, have wall hacks. My suggestion is either take them out all together, or make it so we can make a public vote to kick them all. I know this can already be done, but only the admins can do it. What I was thinking was a public command for any non-admin players. Just an idea I thought I'd let fly... |
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Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:16 pm
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BOTS HAX THEY HAVE HEATSEEKING BLUE PIPES AND ROCKETS 
if you shoot at them they aim down. remember that so you can scout nail a bot hw next time 
the bots problem has been discussed before and it may be fixed soon. |
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| The reason why chips will never do this: the plug-in that allows this also gives users access to admin_vote_map and admin_vote_kick if you give them access to admin_vote_nobots. After people 'complaining' before about not being able to play maps and what not, this plugin was disabled. And sadly, for some reason, people actually seem to like playing with these bots which have godly aim. |
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| Yeah, to give them the power to kick bots, they'd get to change the map and kick people. There's an admin on MOST of the time anyway, and when we eventually make the move to the new server, that lag problem with bots should probably correct itself. They'll still have godly aim, and potshot the f out of you, but they won't move across the monkey_l yard in 3 seconds. |
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| Their godly aim is dwarfed by their demand at shooting at the floor. Either they shoot directly at me, or straigt down, usually the latter. I notice they shoot at the ground more when they're being shot at, too. |
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| Audhumla wrote: |
| They'll still have godly aim, and potshot the f out of you, but they won't move across the monkey_l yard in 3 seconds. |
I don't know about everyone else, but my *biggest* problem with them is when they lag, then unlag and shoot you like 50 times in a tenth of a second, and your pretty much dead. |
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| i dont know why this topic continues to come up. Chips has said multiple times that bots bring people on. i know when i come on and no one else is on, i stay cause at least there are bots. i say leave it the way it is. yes they can be annoying but you take the good with the bad. |
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:28 pm
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The bots are stupid because they are now set to their lowest possible skill level. That's why they shoot at the ground when you encounter them and the medic bots walk around you in a circle when you need healing. The bots won't notice a spy 95% of the time if you feign.
Set at medium level...the bots heal you without even calling for them, kill you in a second and recognise spys even if you feign. They're set as they are now to be tolerable to play with. As far as their "lag" or "maxtrix" style of movement...I still don't know why this happens. The main server is an exact duplicate of my home server in every way...every file is identical. The DO NOT behave this way on my home server. Perhaps the move to our new server will fix this. It's more the machine we're on and it's connection...than anything wrong with the bots themselves.
There is no voting plug-in (automatic) to handle the bots that exists now. If anyone has any expertise in writing server plug-ins...I'd be glad to take a look. There is a hook mod voting plug-in on the server that is disabled. That code could probably be used to function for this purpose if anyone cares to take a crack at it. |
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:42 pm
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Hmm...
odds are, you could replace anything thats like "rcon_df_hook_on 0" to "rcon_bots_off_1" |
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I though that might be the case also...until I looked at the code.
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/* This plugin enables grapling hook votes and auto-responses.
*/
/* $Id: plugin_HOOK.sma,v 1.1 4/6/2004 michaelson@smokingservers.com */
#include <core>
#include <console>
#include <string>
#include <admin>
#include <adminlib>
/* Change this to whatever ratio of players need to vote for a setting to change it. */
#define HOOK_VOTE_RATIO 10
/* Change to 1 to have a grapling hook vote start 160 seconds in to a map */
#define AUTO_HOOK_VOTE 1
#define ACCESS_VOTE_HOOK 1
new STRING_VERSION[MAX_DATA_LENGTH] = "2.50.0";
public HOOKVote() {
new strDummy[10];
vote("Turn the grapling hook on?", "Yes", "No", "HandleHOOKVote",strDummy);
}
public HandleHOOKVote(WinningOption,HLData,VoteCount,UserCount) {
new Text[MAX_TEXT_LENGTH];
new strNumber[MAX_NUMBER_LENGTH];
new Ratio = HOOK_VOTE_RATIO;
new strData[MAX_DATA_LENGTH];
convert_string(HLData, strData,MAX_DATA_LENGTH);
if (VoteCount >= Ratio*UserCount/100) {
if (WinningOption==1) {
if(getvar("DF_hook_on")==1) {
centersay("Vote over. The grapling hook will remain enabled.",18,249,244,0);
} else {
centersay("Your hook is now active.^nHook away!",18,249,244,0);
exec("DF_hook_on 1");
}
} else {
if(getvar("DF_hook_on")==1) {
centersay("OK Ok...You got your way!^nThe grapling hook is unavailable",18,63,187,239);
exec("DF_hook_on 0");
} else {
centersay("Vote over. The hook will remain disabled.",18,63,187,239);
}
}
} else {
numtostr(Ratio*UserCount/100,strNumber);
if(getvar("DF_hook_on")==1) {
snprintf(Text, MAX_TEXT_LENGTH, "Vote succeeded, but not enough votes for change (needed %s)^ngrapling hook will remain enabled.", strNumber);
} else {
snprintf(Text, MAX_TEXT_LENGTH, "Vote succeeded, but not enough votes for change (needed %s)^nThe grapling hook will remain disabled.", strNumber);
}
centersay(Text,18,63,187,239);
}
}
public admin_vote_HOOK(HLCommand,HLData,HLUserName,UserIndex) {
new Command[MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH];
new Data[MAX_DATA_LENGTH];
new User[MAX_NAME_LENGTH];
if (vote_allowed()!=1) {
selfmessage( "Vote not allowed at this time.");
return PLUGIN_HANDLED;
}
convert_string(HLCommand,Command,MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLData,Data,MAX_DATA_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLUserName,User,MAX_NAME_LENGTH);
say_command(User,Command,Data);
HOOKVote();
return PLUGIN_HANDLED;
}
public HandleSay(HLCommand,HLData,HLUserName,UserIndex) {
new Command[MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH];
new Data[MAX_DATA_LENGTH];
new User[MAX_NAME_LENGTH];
convert_string(HLCommand,Command,MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLData,Data,MAX_DATA_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLUserName,User,MAX_NAME_LENGTH);
strstripquotes(Data);
new Match = FALSE;
if (strcasestr(Data, "HOOK on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
} else if (strcasestr(Data, "HOOK is on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
} else if (strcasestr(Data, "grapling hook on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
}
if (Match==TRUE) {
if (getvar("DF_hook_on") == 1){
centersay ("Don't worry about a ladder, hook away!",7,0,255,0);
} else {
centersay ("The hook is off. Get off your lazy butt and find some stairs!",7,0,255,0);
}
}
if (strcasestr(Data, "vote_HOOK")!=-1) {
HOOKVote();
}
return PLUGIN_CONTINUE;
}
public plugin_init() {
plugin_registerinfo("Grapling Hook Plugin","Enables grapling hook votes and auto-responses.",STRING_VERSION);
plugin_registercmd("admin_vote_HOOK","admin_vote_HOOK",ACCESS_VOTE_HOOK,"admin_vote_HOOK : Starts a vote to enable/disable grapling hook.");
plugin_registercmd("say","HandleSay",ACCESS_ALL);
plugin_registerhelp("say",ACCESS_ALL,"say HOOK on, HOOK is on, grapling hook on: Will give grapling hook status.");
#if AUTO_HOOK_VOTE==1
if (vote_allowed()!=1) {
selfmessage( "Vote not allowed at this time.");
return PLUGIN_HANDLED;
}
set_timer("HOOKVote",160,1);
#endif
return PLUGIN_CONTINUE;
}
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:54 pm
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| Chips wrote: |
I though that might be the case also...until I looked at the code.
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/* This plugin enables grapling hook votes and auto-responses.
*/
/* $Id: plugin_HOOK.sma,v 1.1 4/6/2004 michaelson@smokingservers.com */
#include <core>
#include <console>
#include <string>
#include <admin>
#include <adminlib>
/* Change this to whatever ratio of players need to vote for a setting to change it. */
#define HOOK_VOTE_RATIO 10
/* Change to 1 to have a grapling hook vote start 160 seconds in to a map */
#define AUTO_HOOK_VOTE 1
#define ACCESS_VOTE_HOOK 1
new STRING_VERSION[MAX_DATA_LENGTH] = "2.50.0";
public HOOKVote() {
new strDummy[10];
vote("Turn the grapling hook on?", "Yes", "No", "HandleHOOKVote",strDummy);
}
public HandleHOOKVote(WinningOption,HLData,VoteCount,UserCount) {
new Text[MAX_TEXT_LENGTH];
new strNumber[MAX_NUMBER_LENGTH];
new Ratio = HOOK_VOTE_RATIO;
new strData[MAX_DATA_LENGTH];
convert_string(HLData, strData,MAX_DATA_LENGTH);
if (VoteCount >= Ratio*UserCount/100) {
if (WinningOption==1) {
if(getvar("DF_hook_on")==1) {
centersay("Vote over. The grapling hook will remain enabled.",18,249,244,0);
} else {
centersay("Your hook is now active.^nHook away!",18,249,244,0);
exec("DF_hook_on 1");
}
} else {
if(getvar("DF_hook_on")==1) {
centersay("OK Ok...You got your way!^nThe grapling hook is unavailable",18,63,187,239);
exec("DF_hook_on 0");
} else {
centersay("Vote over. The hook will remain disabled.",18,63,187,239);
}
}
} else {
numtostr(Ratio*UserCount/100,strNumber);
if(getvar("DF_hook_on")==1) {
snprintf(Text, MAX_TEXT_LENGTH, "Vote succeeded, but not enough votes for change (needed %s)^ngrapling hook will remain enabled.", strNumber);
} else {
snprintf(Text, MAX_TEXT_LENGTH, "Vote succeeded, but not enough votes for change (needed %s)^nThe grapling hook will remain disabled.", strNumber);
}
centersay(Text,18,63,187,239);
}
}
public admin_vote_HOOK(HLCommand,HLData,HLUserName,UserIndex) {
new Command[MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH];
new Data[MAX_DATA_LENGTH];
new User[MAX_NAME_LENGTH];
if (vote_allowed()!=1) {
selfmessage( "Vote not allowed at this time.");
return PLUGIN_HANDLED;
}
convert_string(HLCommand,Command,MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLData,Data,MAX_DATA_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLUserName,User,MAX_NAME_LENGTH);
say_command(User,Command,Data);
HOOKVote();
return PLUGIN_HANDLED;
}
public HandleSay(HLCommand,HLData,HLUserName,UserIndex) {
new Command[MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH];
new Data[MAX_DATA_LENGTH];
new User[MAX_NAME_LENGTH];
convert_string(HLCommand,Command,MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLData,Data,MAX_DATA_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLUserName,User,MAX_NAME_LENGTH);
strstripquotes(Data);
new Match = FALSE;
if (strcasestr(Data, "HOOK on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
} else if (strcasestr(Data, "HOOK is on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
} else if (strcasestr(Data, "grapling hook on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
}
if (Match==TRUE) {
if (getvar("DF_hook_on") == 1){
centersay ("Don't worry about a ladder, hook away!",7,0,255,0);
} else {
centersay ("The hook is off. Get off your lazy butt and find some stairs!",7,0,255,0);
}
}
if (strcasestr(Data, "vote_HOOK")!=-1) {
HOOKVote();
}
return PLUGIN_CONTINUE;
}
public plugin_init() {
plugin_registerinfo("Grapling Hook Plugin","Enables grapling hook votes and auto-responses.",STRING_VERSION);
plugin_registercmd("admin_vote_HOOK","admin_vote_HOOK",ACCESS_VOTE_HOOK,"admin_vote_HOOK : Starts a vote to enable/disable grapling hook.");
plugin_registercmd("say","HandleSay",ACCESS_ALL);
plugin_registerhelp("say",ACCESS_ALL,"say HOOK on, HOOK is on, grapling hook on: Will give grapling hook status.");
#if AUTO_HOOK_VOTE==1
if (vote_allowed()!=1) {
selfmessage( "Vote not allowed at this time.");
return PLUGIN_HANDLED;
}
set_timer("HOOKVote",160,1);
#endif
return PLUGIN_CONTINUE;
}
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Bolded the most appropriate areas, all the df_hook_on #s.
Change those to whatever RCON is for kicking bots (without "rcon_", apparently, since the exec does that.
The text things would need adjustment too. I'm not a great programmer, so I might mess something up. I'll give adjustments a whirl though, but I'm not gonna bother changing the stuff like "HOOK_VOTE_RATIO" to BOT_VOTE_RATIO cuz I'm pretty sure it'll still operate the same. |
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/* This plugin enables grapling hook votes and auto-responses.
*/
/* $Id: plugin_HOOK.sma,v 1.1 4/6/2004 michaelson@smokingservers.com */
#include <core>
#include <console>
#include <string>
#include <admin>
#include <adminlib>
/* Change this to whatever ratio of players need to vote for a setting to change it. */
#define HOOK_VOTE_RATIO 10
/* Change to 1 to have a grapling hook vote start 160 seconds in to a map */
#define AUTO_HOOK_VOTE 1
#define ACCESS_VOTE_HOOK 1
new STRING_VERSION[MAX_DATA_LENGTH] = "2.50.0";
public HOOKVote() {
new strDummy[10];
vote("Kick the bots?", "Yes", "No", "HandleHOOKVote",strDummy);
}
public HandleHOOKVote(WinningOption,HLData,VoteCount,UserCount) {
new Text[MAX_TEXT_LENGTH];
new strNumber[MAX_NUMBER_LENGTH];
new Ratio = HOOK_VOTE_RATIO;
new strData[MAX_DATA_LENGTH];
convert_string(HLData, strData,MAX_DATA_LENGTH);
if (VoteCount >= Ratio*UserCount/100) {
if (WinningOption==1) {
if(getvar("sv_gravity 800")==1) {
centersay("GG Bots",18,249,244,0);
} else {
centersay("Cya, bots",18,249,244,0);
exec("bot kickall");
}
} else {
if(getvar("sv_gravity 800")==1) {
centersay("Wow... The bots are staying",18,63,187,239);
exec("DF_hook_on 0");
} else {
centersay("Bot removal failed",18,63,187,239);
}
}
} else {
numtostr(Ratio*UserCount/100,strNumber);
if(getvar("sv_gravity 800")==1) {
snprintf(Text, MAX_TEXT_LENGTH, "Vote succeeded, but not enough votes for change (needed %s)^n No change.", strNumber);
} else {
snprintf(Text, MAX_TEXT_LENGTH, "Vote succeeded, but not enough votes for change (needed %s)^n Things stay as they are.", strNumber);
}
centersay(Text,18,63,187,239);
}
}
public admin_vote_HOOK(HLCommand,HLData,HLUserName,UserIndex) {
new Command[MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH];
new Data[MAX_DATA_LENGTH];
new User[MAX_NAME_LENGTH];
if (vote_allowed()!=1) {
selfmessage( "Vote not allowed at this time.");
return PLUGIN_HANDLED;
}
convert_string(HLCommand,Command,MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLData,Data,MAX_DATA_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLUserName,User,MAX_NAME_LENGTH);
say_command(User,Command,Data);
HOOKVote();
return PLUGIN_HANDLED;
}
public HandleSay(HLCommand,HLData,HLUserName,UserIndex) {
new Command[MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH];
new Data[MAX_DATA_LENGTH];
new User[MAX_NAME_LENGTH];
convert_string(HLCommand,Command,MAX_COMMAND_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLData,Data,MAX_DATA_LENGTH);
convert_string(HLUserName,User,MAX_NAME_LENGTH);
strstripquotes(Data);
new Match = FALSE;
if (strcasestr(Data, "HOOK on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
} else if (strcasestr(Data, "HOOK is on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
} else if (strcasestr(Data, "grapling hook on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
}
if (Match==TRUE) {
if (getvar("DF_hook_on") == 1){
centersay ("Don't worry about a ladder, hook away!",7,0,255,0);
} else {
centersay ("The hook is off. Get off your lazy butt and find some stairs!",7,0,255,0);
}
}
if (strcasestr(Data, "vote_HOOK")!=-1) {
HOOKVote();
}
return PLUGIN_CONTINUE;
}
public plugin_init() {
plugin_registerinfo("Grapling Hook Plugin","Enables grapling hook votes and auto-responses.",STRING_VERSION);
plugin_registercmd("admin_vote_HOOK","admin_vote_HOOK",ACCESS_VOTE_HOOK,"admin_vote_HOOK : Starts a vote to enable/disable grapling hook.");
plugin_registercmd("say","HandleSay",ACCESS_ALL);
plugin_registerhelp("say",ACCESS_ALL,"say HOOK on, HOOK is on, grapling hook on: Will give grapling hook status.");
#if AUTO_HOOK_VOTE==1
if (vote_allowed()!=1) {
selfmessage( "Vote not allowed at this time.");
return PLUGIN_HANDLED;
}
set_timer("HOOKVote",160,1);
#endif
return PLUGIN_CONTINUE;
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strstripquotes(Data);
new Match = FALSE;
if (strcasestr(Data, "HOOK on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
} else if (strcasestr(Data, "HOOK is on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
} else if (strcasestr(Data, "grapling hook on")!=-1) {
Match = TRUE;
}
if (Match==TRUE) {
if (getvar("DF_hook_on") == 1){
centersay ("Don't worry about a ladder, hook away!",7,0,255,0);
} else {
centersay ("The hook is off. Get off your lazy butt and find some stairs!",7,0,255,0);
}
}
if (strcasestr(Data, "vote_HOOK")!=-1) {
HOOKVote();
}
return PLUGIN_CONTINUE;
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That part I didn't change. I only knew the rcon for kicking bots, not for turning them on/off, so.... adjustments still need to be made. Where it says "sv_gravity 800" used to be "df_hook_on #" since that's the rcon for on/off, and I dunno rcon for bots on/off |
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| There's an admin on MOST of the time. |
O yea sure MOST of the time. i BARELY see them anymore on the server. |
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You know what would really help.
If you just made me an admin. Im always in the server. |
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Those bots will never be on the server nor care about the server's running. |
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